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| Mailman 3 comes with a new architecture which allows for a separation between the web user interface (WUI) and the mailing list engine. In fact, you can run Mailman 3 with no WUI at all, or integrate Mailman 3 with the rest of your web site by accessing the REST admin interface. | Mailman 3 comes with a new architecture which allows for a separation between the web user interface (WUI) and the mailing list engine. In fact, you can run Mailman 3 with no WUI at all, or integrate Mailman 3 with the rest of your web site by accessing the REST admin interface via mailman.client. |
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| For standalone systems, we want to develop and ship our own updated WUI. The original Mailman 2 user interface was designed in the late 1990's so it's clearly dated, and the technology backing it is ancient, inflexible and non-standard. Today, there are tons of great Python-based web frameworks, and of course `JavaScript` is all the rage today. We want a modern, good looking, well-organized WUI that can be used with Mailman 3 but is optional for those sites that want to heavily customize their use of Mailman. | For standalone systems, we are developing and shipping our own updated WUI. The original Mailman 2 user interface was designed in the late 1990's so it's clearly dated, and the technology backing it is ancient, inflexible and non-standard. Today, there are tons of great Python-based web frameworks, and of course `JavaScript` is all the rage today. We want a modern, good looking, well-organized WUI that can be used with Mailman 3 but is optional for those sites that want to heavily customize their use of Mailman. Thus: Postorius! |
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| Here are some [[../Web UI Mockups|Web UI Mockups]]. | The Mailman WUI (a.k.a. Postorius) is developed on [[http://launchpad.net/postorius|Launchpad]] (code, code review, and bug reports), and we discuss it on the [[http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers|mailman-developers]] mailing list. Please also see the bottom of the page for more resources (including mockups, feature suggestions, and prior work). |
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| Here then are some guidelines, historical notes about previous attempts to update the Mailman WUI can be found [[../Previous work on UI|here]]. | Please add your name to this list, and email the mailman-developers list, if you are interested in helping out! |
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| To make suggestions the developers should consider when creating and designing the UI, please visit [[../Suggestions for new Mailman 3.0 UI|this page]]. The Mailman WUI will be developed on [[https://edge.launchpad.net/mailmanweb|Launchpad]], and discussions will be conducted on the [[http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers|mailman-developers]] mailing list. Please add your name to this list if you are interested in helping out! * [[../../~barry/Home|Barry Warsaw]] |
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| Exactly which templating system we'll choose is '''Django'''. A couple of thoughts though: | We chose the '''Django''' templating system. Some thoughts we were considering: |
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| Status updates on the development can be found and discussed [[../Web Interface Status|here]]. | Status updates on the development can be found and discussed [[../Web Interface Status|Web Interface Status]] and on the mailing list. |
New Web Interface (Postorius)
Mailman 3 comes with a new architecture which allows for a separation between the web user interface (WUI) and the mailing list engine. In fact, you can run Mailman 3 with no WUI at all, or integrate Mailman 3 with the rest of your web site by accessing the REST admin interface via mailman.client.
For standalone systems, we are developing and shipping our own updated WUI. The original Mailman 2 user interface was designed in the late 1990's so it's clearly dated, and the technology backing it is ancient, inflexible and non-standard. Today, there are tons of great Python-based web frameworks, and of course JavaScript is all the rage today. We want a modern, good looking, well-organized WUI that can be used with Mailman 3 but is optional for those sites that want to heavily customize their use of Mailman. Thus: Postorius!
The Mailman WUI (a.k.a. Postorius) is developed on Launchpad (code, code review, and bug reports), and we discuss it on the mailman-developers mailing list. Please also see the bottom of the page for more resources (including mockups, feature suggestions, and prior work).
Please add your name to this list, and email the mailman-developers list, if you are interested in helping out!
- Patrick Ben Koetter
- Claudia Fleiner
- Toshio Kuratomi
- Sumana Harihareswara
Guidelines
- Modern, easy to use web user interface for users, list admins, and site admins.
Progressive enhancement; i.e. can use JavaScript for dynamic aspects, but must remain usable for non-JavaScript browsers, and must be friendly to screen readers.
WUI templates must support internationalization by allowing us to mark up translatable texts for inclusion in the gettext catalog. Technology must integrate with Python's gettext module and/or Mailman's i18n infrastructure.
- WUI template system must be Python-based (framework TBD) and GPLv3 compatible.
JavaScript library must be GPLv3 compatible (framework TBD).
Templating systems
We chose the Django templating system. Some thoughts we were considering:
- It would be nice to use the same templating system in the WUI and core engine. I'd like to be able to use templates for all email that Mailman sends
It should be friendly to Internationalization. Meaning it should be possible to extract texts from templates and add them to a gettext catalog.
- Of course, written in Python
Status
Status updates on the development can be found and discussed Web Interface Status and on the mailing list.
Wish List / Random Ideas
- "moderate_all" option for admins: "Consider an admin that is reviewing a bunch of bounces/spam, etc. It might be handy for him to have some buttons to freeze the list (eg. moderate-all) in that context without having to navigate over to a different section to set that flag." (wacky via irc)
- showing the Log in the WUI (C Nulk via Mailinglist)
- allowing a user 'to be on vacation' (wacky via IRC)